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Athiests Win!

Postby Macca101 » Wed 06 Jan, 2010 9:54 pm

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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby Shadowsphynx » Wed 06 Jan, 2010 10:22 pm

I'm not sure if this is a parody to spoof Christians, or if it is an actual Church preaching.

As a Christian, I'm more offended by the thought that this is real.....
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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby Fuchal » Wed 06 Jan, 2010 10:53 pm

I feel ashamed I was ever part of little athletics as a kid. I'll never don another pair of running shoes.

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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby Macca101 » Wed 06 Jan, 2010 10:55 pm

Nah it's real Sphynx.

Search 'Westboro Baptist Church Lady GaGa spoof' for their latest work.
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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby Lexx » Wed 06 Jan, 2010 11:32 pm

Shadowsphynx wrote:I'm not sure if this is a parody to spoof Christians, or if it is an actual Church preaching.

As a Christian, I'm more offended by the thought that this is real.....


Don't be offended, Sphynx. Although they call themselves a 'Baptist' Church - they are not recognised by the denomination. They are as Baptist as you or I just starting a church and calling ourselves that. Besides hating on Jews, gays, soldiers and the Catholic Church, this group also denounces the following forms of Protestantism - Methodists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, Episcopalians and Baptists. That's right, Baptists!

So there you have it.

This group IS NOT Christian. Westboro 'Baptist' Church is a cult. They don't worship Jesus, they worship the pastor Fred Phelps.

On the WACO scale, 1 being heaven's Gate, 5 being Waco and 10 being Jonestown - I give them a 7. It really is only a matter of time before they all drink their Kool aid.

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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby Fuchal » Wed 06 Jan, 2010 11:47 pm

Lexx, can you explain where this cult leader fits in your scale?

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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby Lexx » Thu 07 Jan, 2010 11:34 am

Fuchal wrote:Lexx, can you explain where this cult leader fits in your scale?

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Attacking people with mental illnesses for entertainment places this guy at a 6. He should know better. Luckily he will be euthanised in due course.
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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby Prawn » Thu 07 Jan, 2010 12:19 pm

My spidey senses are telling me to leave this one alone but...
Leviticus 18:22 wrote:Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 wrote:If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

God does seem to have it in for fags, and most Christian denominations (in fact, most major religions) respect his position:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ch ... osexuality

Aside from the shitty singing and colourful placards, I'm not sure why Westborough get singled out for taking a literal interpretation of the bible? Most Baptist churches share the same sentiments.
The Southern Baptist Convention is one of the largest Baptist movements and the largest Protestant group in the US and they've made their thoughts on the matter clear:
"We affirm God's plan for marriage and sexual intimacy – one man, and one woman, for life. Homosexuality is not a "valid alternative lifestyle." The Bible condemns it as sin. It is not, however, unforgivable sin. The same redemption available to all sinners is available to homosexuals. They, too, may become new creations in Christ."


My question to people pointing out how crazy the Westborough Church is (and don't get me wrong, I think they're batshit insane): Why are these guys ostracized when, from where I'm sitting, they share most of the same beliefs as other christian/baptist denominations?
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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby Macca101 » Thu 07 Jan, 2010 12:41 pm

It's not just this song. Search Westboro Baptist Church. They've protested at numerous private family funerals of US soldiers.
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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby Shadowsphynx » Thu 07 Jan, 2010 2:36 pm

Prawn,

I think the reason they get singled out is because even though they may share the same sentiments as most Christians, they forget two very important teachings of Jesus.

1: Only God has the right to judge man based on his sins

2: Forgiveness is the key to salvation - God cannot forgive our sins if we do not forgive the trespasses of others unto ourselves.

Forgiveness is borne out of unconditional love. You cannot love someone and hate them at the same time, just as you cannot walk forwards and backwards at the same time. As for this song, "God hates the world"? How can He hate the world if He sent Jesus to die for our sins because He loved it so much? look up John 3:16 - it's says it right there in black and white.

It's people like this that make Christians in general get viewed in a negative light. However, I forgive them their ignorance and bigotry because I know the power of God can overcome this cult chicanery.
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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby Prawn » Thu 07 Jan, 2010 2:51 pm

Macca101 wrote:It's not just this song. Search Westboro Baptist Church. They've protested at numerous private family funerals of US soldiers.

Yeah I'm familiar with these guys... who is that British guy that's always annoying celebrities with his hammy documentaries? (Just googled it, Louis Theroux). I watched his take on Westborough on the plane back from Germany, they're an interesting family.
Shadowsphynx wrote:Prawn,

I think the reason they get singled out is because even though they may share the same sentiments as most Christians, they forget two very important teachings of Jesus.

1: Only God has the right to judge man based on his sins

2: Forgiveness is the key to salvation - God cannot forgive our sins if we do not forgive the trespasses of others unto ourselves.

Forgiveness is borne out of unconditional love. You cannot love someone and hate them at the same time, just as you cannot walk forwards and backwards at the same time. As for this song, "God hates the world"? How can He hate the world if He sent Jesus to die for our sins because He loved it so much? look up John 3:16 - it's says it right there in black and white.

It's people like this that make Christians in general get viewed in a negative light. However, I forgive them their ignorance and bigotry because I know the power of God can overcome this cult chicanery.


Hey good answer, thanks for taking the time to respond!
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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby dunny » Thu 07 Jan, 2010 4:09 pm

Prophet Batty has been telling us this for some months now "Even Jesus Hates You"
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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby dunny » Thu 07 Jan, 2010 4:59 pm

look closely at the video and you can see brother Batty up the back
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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby rimmerthecat » Thu 07 Jan, 2010 5:00 pm

before this turns into a deep philosophical and religious debate i have one comment : if god hates me so much then i invite him to step up and do something about it, myself and a 3 foot length of rebar will be waiting
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Re: Athiests Win!

Postby Lexx » Thu 07 Jan, 2010 6:08 pm

Shadowsphynx wrote:Prawn,

I think the reason they get singled out is because even though they may share the same sentiments as most Christians, they forget two very important teachings of Jesus.

1: Only God has the right to judge man based on his sins

2: Forgiveness is the key to salvation - God cannot forgive our sins if we do not forgive the trespasses of others unto ourselves.

Forgiveness is borne out of unconditional love. You cannot love someone and hate them at the same time, just as you cannot walk forwards and backwards at the same time. As for this song, "God hates the world"? How can He hate the world if He sent Jesus to die for our sins because He loved it so much? look up John 3:16 - it's says it right there in black and white.

It's people like this that make Christians in general get viewed in a negative light. However, I forgive them their ignorance and bigotry because I know the power of God can overcome this cult chicanery.


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